AngelE

[suphuckers]

Anybody notice the AngelE has a little less volume then some other modules?

 

[drewiv]

My wife would kill me if I fired up the amp this early, so I can't speak specifically for this particular module. I can make a blanket statement that module volumes do vary. I can check this out later, if you like.

 

[suphuckers]

If you get a chance I'd appreciate it drew. That would be great! It seems to work fine. It's just less volume. ...and seems a little excessive compared to most of the other Modules.

I've tried 2 or 3 dif sets of tubes in it, and it didn't change much. I run the gain at about 10:30-11 (My pups are pretty high output, so I can't go too much higher without it squealing back at me). It's the same on most of my other Modules too though as far as the gain setting. A few Modules I can get the gain up to 12 but that's rare. I usually run the Volume at about 1. On the AngelE I have to run it more around 3 or 4 (at least) to get the same Volume as most of my other Modules.

I love the Module btw in case anyone else is reading.

Let me know
Thanks!

 

[drewiv]

I'll try and reproduce your settings as best as I can. The only variance will be most of my pickups are Vintage Hot style (that and my Angel E is dual channel). The hottest pickups I have installed in any of my guitars are BKP Nailbombs and I'm not going to do a pickup swap for you today. :wink:

I have a very high gain rated (according to my incredibly substandard Orange Valve Tester ) Mesa labeled 12AX7-A in V1 and a JJ ECC83S installed in V2.

 

[suphuckers]

yeh let me know, I'd appreciate it. You don't have to duplicate my settings really. I mean, if you can get similar volumes between modules, then I should be able to get them too (regardless of the rest of the rig). I would think so anyways.

Either way, I'm not going to send it all the way back to CZ. I'm just curious if it's normal. I wish I had gotten one of these a long time ago. I've paid for many modules trying to find this one.

Does your dual module do clean too?

 

[drewiv]

The dual channel is your standard Angel E, but Channel B is wired as if the "Balls switch" were engaged.

 

[suphuckers]

I really like the AngelE. I wish it had even a little more "balls", but it's great as is.

The 1st gainer I bought was a MarkUS. It has plenty of balls, but it needs a sweep between that red/orange channel instead of a switch. That way it could be fine tuned. It has a bit too much of the mid's sucked out. I refer to that tone as being sucked under a boat LoL. I kept thinking about seeing if Anthony could make me one like that, but I haven't asked him yet.

I bought the MarkUS from Matt, and he can tell you... I sent him a msg that I was ready to throw my entire rig in the street after buying that Module LoL. It took me a few days to stop hating it. I still have it, and I use it for cleans, if you can believe that lmao

It's taken me a while to get to this AngelE. One I still haven't tried is a Mamba. I think I'm gonna slow down for a bit on Modules though. This one has made me happy for the time being. It's a good time to take a break.

 

[drewiv]

Well, I wish I could help, but my Angel E has a real bad howling issue. :? I've spent the last hour messing with it, but All I get is a howl - Volume down on the guitar, volume up, guitar unplugged, three tube changes...

So, mine looks like it DOES need help. I'm blaming you. :wink:

 

[suphuckers]

So, mine looks like it DOES need help. I'm blaming you. :wink:

Yikes sorry.

If it helps, mine squeals/howls a bit if I turn my compressor off (which is in front of the amp). The way I have it set, it tames that issue a bit. Salvado has the same problem.

Or are you experiencing "Something Completely Different"?

 

[drewiv]

This is definitely an issue of some sort. It's been some time since this has been plugged in, I'm just getting back to playing after a year of moving and remodeling. Crap happens with this stuff, I'm going to email Antonin tomorrow and see what he thinks. Maybe I'll send him this module and a new donor for something fun.

Sorry I couldn't help, but for what it's worth the volume seemed to be similar to my Camerock, but less than the Voxy Face. Wish I could have helped you out more. At least I found the issue at a non-critical moment.

 

[suphuckers]

Ohh I just re-read and realized you said even with the guitar unplugged...

 

[suphuckers]

yup. Thanks anyways! Hope you get it sorted out.

 

[JeffHenneman]

Anybody notice the AngelE has a little less volume then some other modules?

The angel E I had was like that. If I remember correctly, I usual run my modules volumes at 10-11o'clock, and the Angel-E I would have it around 1 o'clock. The module sounded amazing, so I didn't think it was a problem.
I wonder if it has to do with havering two different mid controls. I never ran those too high, most of the time I would have one a little high and the other lower. Not scooped, bit 1 or 2 lower. I always thought it may be a perceived lower volume cause of the way I ran the mids.

 

[suphuckers]

Anybody notice the AngelE has a little less volume then some other modules?

The angel E I had was like that. If I remember correctly, I usual run my modules volumes at 10-11o'clock, and the Angel-E I would have it around 1 o'clock. The module sounded amazing, so I didn't think it was a problem.
I wonder if it has to do with havering two different mid controls. I never ran those too high, most of the time I would have one a little high and the other lower. Not scooped, bit 1 or 2 lower. I always thought it may be a perceived lower volume cause of the way I ran the mids.

Yes, It seems exactly like this to me. Thank You!

 

[Nightdare]

I wonder if it has to do with havering two different mid controls. I never ran those too high, most of the time I would have one a little high and the other lower. Not scooped, bit 1 or 2 lower. I always thought it may be a perceived lower volume cause of the way I ran the mids.

My Angel+T is at 1 o'clock with boosted mids (instead of volume) for leads
My Masholdano for rhythm in comparison is at 12 O'clock

I know my Angel increases in output volume if I enable the contour and/or mid edge switches
My knowledge of gainstages and tonestacks is lacking too much to know if one of the tube sides is used to feed the mid-functions instead of the overall output

 

[suphuckers]

Thanks for the input Nightdare. Sounds like my AngelE is working normally.