compare/contrast SL2 with EG3/4 and EG5?

[turbodogfish]

i am on a mod expansion spree and looking for one more gain-y dual channel mod to round it out. i have the VX, Bman, COD and SL2. I want something that will be like a high-gain COD - rich in mids, but tighter in the lows, and more aggressive.

are the EG3/4 or EG5 it? maybe the EG3/4x?

 

[LunatiBSW]

Sounds like you need a jaded faith Mark X

 

[turbodogfish]

thanks for the suggestion, but as i understand it, since i want a dual channel mod (i have a mod 50 and don't want to give up that flexibility), i'd have to get a dual mod and then send it in for the mark X, which sounds pricey... was hoping to go with a stock dualie.

 

[LunatiBSW]

Gotcha, modded route is a bit more but totally worth it IMO. Robs (jaded faith) mods for duals are close if not the same $ as singles I believe. He's also right here in the good old USA

 

[MarcoR]

i am on a mod expansion spree and looking for one more gain-y dual channel mod to round it out. i have the VX, Bman, COD and SL2. I want something that will be like a high-gain COD - rich in mids, but tighter in the lows, and more aggressive.

are the EG3/4 or EG5 it? maybe the EG3/4x?

I've had 2 EG5s and tried to like them but didn't; too compressed and thin with a harsh treble. The EG3/4 was my main high gainer for years and I preferred it to the SL2 and SL2X and it went well with the B'man.

I recently sent my EG3/4 to be converted into a dual Quick Mod by Jaded Faith Mods and it's pretty sick; much thicker than the other Marshall based mods with a certain weight behind individual notes, tight enough but loose enough to be great for leads too. This one is very different feeling than just about everything else I've tried and I have a bit of a love hate relationship with it; it tends to make other modules sound thin and it takes some work to dial it in at different volumes (going from bedroom to loud band volume).

If I were you I would send your COD to Rob to be converted into a dual OverDrive Special (although that's not what your asking for it would just be cool).

 

[The Rossness]

Honestly, I'd tell you to look at a stock Randall Mr. Scary

 

[webrthomson]

i am on a mod expansion spree and looking for one more gain-y dual channel mod to round it out. i have the VX, Bman, COD and SL2. I want something that will be like a high-gain COD - rich in mids, but tighter in the lows, and more aggressive.

are the EG3/4 or EG5 it? maybe the EG3/4x?

I've got a EG3/4 and a SLx2 and I sent the EG3/4 to Rob to base mod - it's now so good that I'm thinking about getting the SLx2 modded to something else and out the box its great. Honestly I know it's a bit more $ but get the EG3/4 and get it base modded you will never need another hot rodded Marshall type tone

I've had 2 EG5s and tried to like them but didn't; too compressed and thin with a harsh treble. The EG3/4 was my main high gainer for years and I preferred it to the SL2 and SL2X and it went well with the B'man.

+ 1 on this, I love the EG5 on it's own but I can't quite get it to work in a group setting. Its to raspy and aggressive in the same way my Boogie Mark III is! Great on it's own, rubbish in the mix!

If you have a look here http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=16905 there is a bit more on SLO / Marshall modules that might help!

 

[turbodogfish]

great feedback, all... i'm leaning towards that eg3/4 now...

 

[frodgemo]

Just to throw a little contrast into the discussion - I ordered an EG3/4 earlier this year (the newer ones with the D/S switch and mid-shift) expecting to really love it. I cannot honestly say that I do. For me, it's just a bit too dark, a bit too loose, and doesn't have quite as much gain as I had hoped. I just can't get it to sit well with the rest of my mods. Switching the power section form 6550s to EL34s helped a bit, but still...not quite what I want it to be. So now I'm debating what to get it modded into...anyway just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[turbodogfish]

I have been emailing Bruce about getting the eg/4x which is supposed to be tighter and brighter. I am hopeful this gets me where I want.

 

[Whoopysnorp]

Its to raspy and aggressive in the same way my Boogie Mark III is! Great on it's own, rubbish in the mix!

Sorry for the thread hijack, but I found this kind of surprising...I find the Mark III excellent at cutting through a mix. I've been working on mixing some songs that I've been recording over the past few years. On some of them I used a Mesa Studio Preamp into the power section of a Mark III blue stripe, and on some I just used the Mark III as is. The guitar sounds absolutely ripping on the tracks where I just used the Mark III. I don't have that amp anymore, but I have a different Mark III that I like even better. Weird how that works out. You don't scoop the mids with the GEQ do you?

 

[webrthomson]

Its to raspy and aggressive in the same way my Boogie Mark III is! Great on it's own, rubbish in the mix!

Sorry for the thread hijack, but I found this kind of surprising...I find the Mark III excellent at cutting through a mix. I've been working on mixing some songs that I've been recording over the past few years. On some of them I used a Mesa Studio Preamp into the power section of a Mark III blue stripe, and on some I just used the Mark III as is. The guitar sounds absolutely ripping on the tracks where I just used the Mark III. I don't have that amp anymore, but I have a different Mark III that I like even better. Weird how that works out. You don't scoop the mids with the GEQ do you?

Hey - mine is a red stripe and no, no real scooping of the mids. I was meaning in a band situation rather than recording - I've not actually recorded with this amp in fact.

Could be I just don't see eye to eye with the Mark III, but I don't have the same issue with my Mark II's, but to cut through the mix live I seem to end up sounds to trebley and not in a good way?

I've got a studio preamp too and I don't find that has the same issue, but then again it's the same preamp circuit as the Mark II's (or so I'm told).

Hmm, we have kind of hijacked this thread - sorry

 

[rblyn]

i am on a mod expansion spree and looking for one more gain-y dual channel mod to round it out. i have the VX, Bman, COD and SL2. I want something that will be like a high-gain COD - rich in mids, but tighter in the lows, and more aggressive.

are the EG3/4 or EG5 it? maybe the EG3/4x?

I've had 2 EG5s and tried to like them but didn't; too compressed and thin with a harsh treble. The EG3/4 was my main high gainer for years and I preferred it to the SL2 and SL2X and it went well with the B'man.

I recently sent my EG3/4 to be converted into a dual Quick Mod by Jaded Faith Mods and it's pretty sick; much thicker than the other Marshall based mods with a certain weight behind individual notes, tight enough but loose enough to be great for leads too. This one is very different feeling than just about everything else I've tried and I have a bit of a love hate relationship with it; it tends to make other modules sound thin and it takes some work to dial it in at different volumes (going from bedroom to loud band volume).

If I were you I would send your COD to Rob to be converted into a dual OverDrive Special (although that's not what your asking for it would just be cool).

Thanks for this post- I've been looking for a "comparison" type of statement for the Quickmod vs other Marshall type mods. Sounds like a cool mod and different enougt to add to my collection. Sucks what Im hearing about the EG5 though- Ive always thought it was Egnater's take on a Soldano- But this is like the third time I've heard the "thin" and "trebly" statements when discussing this one....

 

[webrthomson]

Just to throw a little contrast into the discussion - I ordered an EG3/4 earlier this year (the newer ones with the D/S switch and mid-shift) expecting to really love it. I cannot honestly say that I do. For me, it's just a bit too dark, a bit too loose, and doesn't have quite as much gain as I had hoped. I just can't get it to sit well with the rest of my mods. Switching the power section form 6550s to EL34s helped a bit, but still...not quite what I want it to be. So now I'm debating what to get it modded into...anyway just thought I'd throw that out there.

Just a thought, I got Rob to base mod my Eg3/4 and I think its fantastic! Might be worth a shot, sure if you wanted Rob could tighten it up and add some gain.

Of course you could just mod it

 

[frodgemo]

Just to throw a little contrast into the discussion - I ordered an EG3/4 earlier this year (the newer ones with the D/S switch and mid-shift) expecting to really love it. I cannot honestly say that I do. For me, it's just a bit too dark, a bit too loose, and doesn't have quite as much gain as I had hoped. I just can't get it to sit well with the rest of my mods. Switching the power section form 6550s to EL34s helped a bit, but still...not quite what I want it to be. So now I'm debating what to get it modded into...anyway just thought I'd throw that out there.

Just a thought, I got Rob to base mod my Eg3/4 and I think its fantastic! Might be worth a shot, sure if you wanted Rob could tighten it up and add some gain.

Of course you could just mod it

Yeah I'm probably going to go the fully modded route...trouble is, there are more mods that I want than donors available!

 

[webrthomson]

Just to throw a little contrast into the discussion - I ordered an EG3/4 earlier this year (the newer ones with the D/S switch and mid-shift) expecting to really love it. I cannot honestly say that I do. For me, it's just a bit too dark, a bit too loose, and doesn't have quite as much gain as I had hoped. I just can't get it to sit well with the rest of my mods. Switching the power section form 6550s to EL34s helped a bit, but still...not quite what I want it to be. So now I'm debating what to get it modded into...anyway just thought I'd throw that out there.

Just a thought, I got Rob to base mod my Eg3/4 and I think its fantastic! Might be worth a shot, sure if you wanted Rob could tighten it up and add some gain.

Of course you could just mod it

Yeah I'm probably going to go the fully modded route...trouble is, there are more mods that I want than donors available!

Yup hear that dude

 

[turbodogfish]

so i went with the EG3/4X... it's really everything i hoped it would be, especially since it's one of the new ones with the voicing button. i was worried that i might not like the "bright" mod of the X, but so far it seems perfect in my setup. regardless, bruce and terri sent a little baggy with the stock part and instructions on how to reverse the X mod back to stock just in case!

 

[webrthomson]

so i went with the EG3/4X... it's really everything i hoped it would be, especially since it's one of the new ones with the voicing button. i was worried that i might not like the "bright" mod of the X, but so far it seems perfect in my setup. regardless, bruce and terri sent a little baggy with the stock part and instructions on how to reverse the X mod back to stock just in case!

Nice one - I really like my EG3/4 as well. I know it can be pretty "dark", but hey what's wrong with that - good stuff