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I believe Mojo spotted this on another thread already, but it is a pretty cool thing. I think the models are actually authorized by Randall. I haven't heard about anybody using this software. I would be interested in some reviews on it.
audiomidijace
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They sent me a full copy to do a review for them. It sucked really bad!
m0jo
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Really? Compared to a real amp or compared to other software?audiomidijace said:
Because I think it's definitly better then GR4 and Amplitube 3 (which really, really sucks badly IMO)...
The speaker cabs aren't that great, but I always use my own IR's anyways.
Have you tried the IR cabs? (there are some from 3rd parties in there)
Of course it's no match for real MTS, but come on .. most actual amps aren't :roll:
I do think they need an interaction designer, the usability of the interface is not great (looks great .. but they've really lost sight of the usability aspect)
audiomidijace
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Compared to anything. The tones just sucked!
Their Breverb plug-in is actually quite good, but this....
I think Line 6 has the best products in this category.
The new HD stuff is actually quite good.
Their Breverb plug-in is actually quite good, but this....
I think Line 6 has the best products in this category.
The new HD stuff is actually quite good.
m0jo
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Hmm.. difference of opinion than, each to his own
Don't get me wrong: I still think modeling is pretty crappy in general, like I've said many times before.
But I don't think TH2 is worse than any other I've tried.
Don't get me wrong: I still think modeling is pretty crappy in general, like I've said many times before.
But I don't think TH2 is worse than any other I've tried.
I use TH1 and 2 for almost a year now... It is my workhorse for recording. dont find it crappy at all, especially with third party IRs. I tried a lot of software and hardware modeling and IMHO TH2 is one of the best.
Just check this out. All guitars TH2 and bass overloud studio mark.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=728473&songID=10453252
Just check this out. All guitars TH2 and bass overloud studio mark.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=728473&songID=10453252
I'm not trying to agree or disagree with anyone, but the clips on the website sounded pretty decent. There may be a learning curve to properly using the software and getting it to play nicely with one's other toys. I don't know.
Mattfig
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A software package that models a modeling amp that models other amps? Seems perfectly logical to me... 8)
Mattfig
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Daryl said:
I don't think my Mashall Plus was made by Marshall...
... I think modeling is a weird word and though it applies to MTS- most have come to think of modeling in terms of Line 6 and Axe-FX...Tube modeling like MTS is rare and obviously bridges the gap that digital can almost do...Almost....I guess I just figured that the modelling process was about converting the electrical properties of a circuit into an algorithm. What MTS does is create an actual analog circuit that approximates the different tones. It just feels too weird to think of it as modelling, so I'm going to live in denial, sir. :lol:Mattfig said:Daryl said:
I don't think my Mashall Plus was made by Marshall...
Mattfig
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Daryl said:I guess I just figured that the modelling process was about converting the electrical properties of a circuit into an algorithm. What MTS does is create an actual analog circuit that approximates the different tones. It just feels too weird to think of it as modelling, so I'm going to live in denial, sir. :lol:Mattfig said:Daryl said:
I don't think my Mashall Plus was made by Marshall...
Denial? I'm there all the time...Perhaps we should meet at the church of **** yeah for a cold one?? :lol:
nikki-k
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Okay... so following this line of reasoning, the Friedman "Marsha" and the MetroAmp kits are... modeling?
Mattfig
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nikki-k said:
Can't speak to the Marsha as I'm not that familiar with them...But if it's a modded Marshall, it's not modeling in my eyes...Just modded...If the MetroAmp kits are DIY amps and clones of others - than I would call them duplicates or replicates...
I only call MTS modeling because there are adjustments made to the circuits to make each module respond more like the original...I'll use the Recto tones as an example...They're modeling the tone of a Mesa Recto but are not duplicating or recreating the same circuit, especially when it comes to the power tube section- I guess any time you are approximating the tone- you're modeling by my definition...It's either modded, copied, or modeled...
I know we all hate that "modeling" word...But MTS is a tube modeling system...Vastly different than digital modeling and much closer due to more authentic parts rather than algorithms...
Just my .02...I guess it's just a matter of semantics...I love my MTS and consider it to be the best amp system out there...Throwing in the term modeling doesn't make it any less to me...
Mattfig said:
That sounds like a photocopy of a photocopy, which tend to be not as good as the original source. I have yet to hear a modeling product that I liked, although I have not tried 11R or AxeFX.
I am with Daryl on, that I never associated MTS with modeling, even though most of the modules are trying to replicate a certain amp. Modeling to me is the digital reproduction of an amps tone. Where as the MTS is just a tube amp with loads of "tweakability". Kid of reminds me of my old VTM 60 head. With all those switches you could taylor the sound to what you liked. Just the MTS gives you more flexibility.
nikki-k
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Well, technically, it is not modeling. Semantics do not come into play, as the definition of amp modeling refers solely to digital emulations. The MTS line, OTOH, is solely variations on known circuits... no actual emulation in the modeling sense. A module can be wired to match, say, a Plexi preamp section. However, it cannot replicate how that Plexi preamp circuit co-operates with the missing pieces from the Plexi head (transformer, amp circuit, etc). OTOH, take a MosValve amplifier; THAT is modeling, to an extent. It is a solid state "emulation" of a tube power amp. MTS is modular, not modeling. To refer to the MTS as such (modeling preamp) is at best misleading, and at worst... well....Mattfig said:
Bruce Egnater created the modular line so as to allow replacement/substitution option for a guitar amplifier circuit. Simply, the ability to utilize more than one preamp circuit with an amplifier, and to allow *live* switching between multiple preamp circuits. The fact that modules exist that either claim to or are made to emulate the sound/circuitry utilized by well-known (and often well-loved) amplifier makers is a side effect of capability.
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