My ACDC tone,JTM45 clip

[walshinator666]

Subject says it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Xe1egK4-g&feature=player_detailpage

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Good job! If I can critique one thing, it would be that it sounds like you are playing with a lot of preamp gain. Open that bad boy up t get that more authentic JTM tone by pushin the power tubes and playing a little cleaner. This way the distortion really comes from hitting the strings harder. At the preamp level, a lot of these modules can sound similar...

 

[walshinator666]

Thanks for the comment.I play alot of metal so I suppose my ear is a little desensitized to the amount of gain I use.The gain level on the modual is set at 12o'clock but I forget what the toggles do,it's set in the middle position whatever that means.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

I figured that might be the case.. what pickups do you have in there? I am assuming they are high output and that would definitely do it as well. If the gain is only at noon then that is a powerful pup! Either way though who cares, it is all about having fun.

 

[walshinator666]

One has zw emg's and the other has dimbuckers,so pretty hot pups.I'm not really trying to sound exactly like acdc but more how I percieve the tone to be....I guess.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

All good! Def. the pups then. As you mentioned though, you are just going for the feel. I like it.

 

[Daryl]

Cool clip. I dig it.

 

[BigBrewtus]

Cool clip. I dig it.

Same here man!! Love your clips. Keep up the good work!!

 

[Julia]

I made a patch for Back in Black with my SG Std and POD HD and it's almost dead on for the sound. I did both Malcolm's and Angus. A/B with the CD. I think I just need to add a touch of reverb for ambience. It was not an easy patch to make. Nor was it an easy clip. I think I had half The Gear Page trying to put up something better and all the comments about how difficult that little riff was. I had a mash track of Brian for the vocals just to throw people off. It was up and off on soundcloud in a hurry due to potential copyright issues.

I did one also with the Randall JTM module, and I actually like the sound of this better but it's not exact. It's a bit more mellow sounding.

 

[walshinator666]

Do you have a link, I for one would like to hear what you've got.

 

[Mike P]

To even get close to the AC/DC tone, you'll need to turn the gain down by at least 50%, then use a mahogany body guitar with an Alnico pickup.

As far as recording, you'll need a close mic and a room mic, like 6 foot back to capture the room ambiance. Reverb won't cut it because it was mic'd with two microphones.

Good luck!

 

[Mike P]

One has zw emg's and the other has dimbuckers,so pretty hot pups.I'm not really trying to sound exactly like acdc but more how I percieve the tone to be....I guess.

Guitars made from 1950-1980 feature great wood and low output pickups. You're not going to be able to get even close to that type of tone with a basswood shredder guitar and high output and/or low impedance pickups.

Back In Black was recorded with a 1977 50 watt, two input, master volume stock Marshall with Gibson and Gretsch guitars. To replicate that sound, you'll need a similar setup.

The Sacred Groove SGMK22 replicates that sound perfectly but you'll need the guitar to complete the circle.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Pretty much what I said.. less preamp gain, more master volume, diff pups... beat you to it MikeP. 8)

 

[Mike P]

Do you have a link, I for one would like to hear what you've got.

Here's a track that's similar to B&B. I didn't try to mix it like B&B but I went back and added a harmonizer to the snare and overheads, then brought them up in the mix, it'd be pretty close

www.mikeplas.com/mlib/am/76bird.mp3

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Even that clip still had a bit too much saturation going on for the B and B sound IMO. Probably the JB in your axe? The AC DC sound has more note seperation and cut to my ears and I think it would be less preamp gain. Maybe i'll have a stab at it this weekend with my alnico II's and Brahma. I had the tone once with the alnico II's and a weber pleci clone i built. Had the master up about half way and ear plugs in but it was that tone. Was awesome.

 

[Mike P]

Even that clip still had a bit too much saturation going on for the B and B sound IMO.

Yes, it did. It was one of my Les Paul's with a Burstbucker Pro in the bridge, which is definitely meatier and higher output than an SG.

But that said, I wasn't aiming for the AC/DC tone, just a good, classic 70's Marshall tone. With the right guitar and settings, it's definitely within reach.

 

[tuna141]

MikeP,
Which module did you use for that recording -MK22?

 

[Mike P]

Yes, that's the MK22. I could even closer to the AC/DC tone with this module using my LP Junior. Unfortunately, I haven't owned an SG since the early 80's. It's on the list.