Okstrat/Pete, look here..

[Moe.]

Hey man.

I'm curious about your warmth/clarity mods.

I was just wondering if next time you had an order for the warmth and clarity mods on a high gain module if you could record a clip before and after the mods are done so I have a rough idea of the clarity and warmth added to the module?

Cheers.

 

[Jaded Faith]

Not to step in for Pete here, but I own 8 modules he has worked on, all were before/after situations. There is something that gets lost in a lot of the sample clips I have heard. But there is a BIG difference once it's in your amp and you are playing it compared to before and more so with in a band setting. You will not be disappointed.

 

[jmgman70]

If you like a module now ,I'm pretty **** sure you'll LOVE IT after Pete gets done with it

 

[Mailman1971]

If you like a module now ,I'm pretty **** sure you'll LOVE IT after Pete gets done with it

Amen Brother!!
The MAN has spoken.....and he SPEAKS the TRUTH!!

 

[okstrat]

Problem with that is, by the time the mods are done and tweaked, mics have been moved, settings aren't quite the same, etc... I've tried to do this, and it just doesn't work as well for clips as it does in 'real life'. Even using the mic eliminators doesn't give the same results - ever notice how your tube amps sound different from day to day? I could record the SAME amp every day for a week and there would be subtle differences. Another problem is that I have little time as it is, and am busy enough that I don't really need to do it at this point. Maybe if orders drop off, but I'm as busy as I want to be right now.

Fortunately there are enough of my mods out there that folks who have absolutely no reason to like or dislike my stuff can comment on them. : ) 99.9% of the people with my mods paid $ for them, I have no 'endorsers' as of yet (I even charged Michael Wagener for his) so any comments you hear on the boards are as 'pure' as you're going to get.

Mods aren't for everyone, I've stated it before and I'll state it again - you have to be in the ballpark to begin with. I can take something you like and make it something you love, but if you hate a module and just want it totally different, you'd be better off in the long run just trading it off and getting something closer to what you wanted in the first place. I actually refuse a lot of mod work because of this...

Pete

 

[kbause]

what about taking say an RM50 and putting a stock module in channel 1 and a fresh modded module in channel 2? same tubes in both of course.

I think that'd be a pretty good comparison.

 

[okstrat]

what about taking say an RM50 and putting a stock module in channel 1 and a fresh modded module in channel 2? same tubes in both of course.

I think that'd be a pretty good comparison.

There are still a lot of variables at play. I mean, we can get crazy anal about this, bottom line is that it's going to be hard to get a really good and honest comparison clip of stock vs modded, and ALL clips on the internet are damaged to a degree because of mp3 conversion. Even if I did comparisons as huge wav files, someone would listen to them on a laptop and 'couldn't hear the difference, so what's the big deal?'

Again, the truest test of anybody's amp mods (or amps in general!) are going to be word of mouth/testimonials from people who have played the modules in person or heard them at gigs. I could probably figure out something to make better comparison clips, but I'd rather spend any time I have getting modules finished for customers that have already sent me their modules/money and trust me with their tone. If things slow down I may attempt it.

Pete

 

[JKD]

I've tried to do this, even to the point of using the same tubes in a modded and un-modded module...it really doesn't work...something in the signal chain or recording workflow loses the feel and subtle changes in sound..heck, my playing isn't consistent from one moment to the next.

If you want to try and get a feel for it yourself, get the same values of different types (orange drop, silver-mica, poly, ceramic etc. )of capacitor and change c3..it's the easiest way I can think of to hear a difference...it's subtle, but it's there...if you like what you hear/feel, then a mod might be for you.

My ear isn't that great tho'..yours may not be either...

NOTE: Pete uses his expertise and ear to change others in the tone stack too..but c3 is the simplest one to experiment with.

Just for reference, I've had:

Pete SL+/800 Bass switch
Recto Orange/Red Proto + bass switch
Recto Orange/Red 'Production'
1st gen mid-shift XTC
New mod mid-shift/gained XTC
Pete Twin/Deluxe switchable
Pete Ultra Lead bass/(voicing?) switch

...I may have missed one, but not a single modded module has sounded worse than before..all have had better sound and/or features.

The only one that didn't really work for me was probably the Ultra Lead but honestly, that module is kinda one-dimensional anyway (could be my fault in the way I use it and my shitty lead playing.

 

[JKD]

Also, am loaning one my modules to a friend locally...well, mailing it...maybe you have someone in your locale willing to do same?

Back in the early days of MTS, couple of my modules did tours of the States...don't really have the time or spare modules to do that now though.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

I can take something you like and make it something you love

I can attest to this: JTM, SL+ Recto, XTC, BFace...awesome work! The XTC is my newest addition and it is flat out inspiring- forever sustain. It even makes my previously thin PBC guitar sound thick and full and has brought it back to life

 

[Moe.]

Okstrat, would you be willing to do some mods for me if I payed for shipping from here to you and back? I'm from Australia.

Also, I appreciate what you said. It does make sense that the clip may damage some essence of the sound, especially if it's on youtube. :lol:

 

[muzapstar]

Hey pete, i've been trying to get a reply for about a week and a half about a mod. I see you have time to answer these questions, would you please help me? We need to do business.

 

[ryanougrad]

Same here. Pete sent you a PM, but have not received a response. How do we reach you. The email link on your page doesn't work.

We need to do business as well! Need a Recto done and maybe more.

 

[Jaded Faith]

Email him at [email protected]. He gets a TON of PM's here and his box fills up quickly. He is great about emailing you back though.

 

[okstrat]

Moe - email me, [email protected], I'll ship to hell and back if you pay shipping and any import/export fees.

Muzap - I replied to you here - http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=5409 - if you are looking for mods I can do them, but I won't promise to get you a bob rock studio tone that is layered with different amps and guitars. read the thread for a reason why. If after reading that you still want mods, email me.

Ryan - I'll be in touch asap. Thanks.

*whew* Thanks guys

Pete

 

[crankyrayhanky]

Moe - email me, [email protected], I'll ship to hell and back if you pay shipping and any import/export fees.

Cool, I may be relocating there! Better acoustics in the red caves

 

[muzapstar]

Thanks pete, I didn't see that I don't keep up with old threads much. I got your response though and sent you an email back. I know you can't promise me bob rock. I produce/engineer and understand that. I do however know how I want the guitar tone.

 

[okstrat]

Thanks pete, I didn't see that I don't keep up with old threads much. I got your response though and sent you an email back. I know you can't promise me bob rock. I produce/engineer and understand that. I do however know how I want the guitar tone.

You're replied to on PM and email. Thanks.

Pete