Scott Ian 1987 arrived today.

[schlagdog]

I got the 1987 today. I'll be making a little demo this weekend and posting it. First impression is pretty good and if I remember way back I think it kinda has an XTC feel. It's been years since I owned an XTC so that may be crazy talk. It's definitely not a high gain module, gain maxed out is about half gain on my grail. It needs a little more room in the high end department and it is noisy but sounds pretty sweet. As soon as you back the gain off it starts to sound like my SuperV somehow. I'll get a video up by the end of the weekend and am probably going to have the try The Nuts next just to see what they did with a high gain module. I figured I should give it a last go since the MTS line is cancelled and this most likely with be the last Randall modules we ever see.

 

[RADE01]

Looking foward to hearing it. MTS cancelled? I didn't know, although you can't say everyone didn't see it coming.

 

[schlagdog]

I'm pretty sure the Scott ian mods are the last we see. I've been told by a couple Randall dealers they can't get modules anymore and haven't been able to for quite a while. It's been 4 modules in about 4 years I think

 

[RADE01]

Oh I don't doubt it mate. It's not surprising. It's a good thing some people like the concept, even if Randall themselves don't see any potential. Maybe the heads weren't reliable enough?

 

[m0jo]

We've heard that rumor before.

But now product are disappearing from certain shops I'm getting worried..

 

[schlagdog]

The company got sold years ago and everything in development went away and the company got completely downsized. Wasn't anything to do with the product just a new company reorganizing.

 

[RADE01]

Hmm, maybe the majority of people here are just buying modded modules so Randy's not getting enough of the action?

 

[m0jo]

The company got sold years ago and everything in development went away and the company got completely downsized. Wasn't anything to do with the product just a new company reorganizing.

But on the other hand, they have brought out the Scott Ian modules.

They wouldn't do that just before killing the line, that would be extremely stupid.

 

[schlagdog]

I was actually told they pushed through the modules because he was going to walk to EVH amps and they didn't want to lose one of there last major endorsees after hyping up his signature modules.

 

[m0jo]

I was actually told they pushed through the modules because he was going to walk to EVH amps and they didn't want to lose one of there last major endorsees after hyping up his signature modules.

Take these things with a pinch of salt, especially from a dealer.

But still, that still means they want to continue the MTS line, otherwise they wouldn't care about losing an MTS endorser

 

[schlagdog]

Scott Ian was a signature model endorser that they had been working with for a few years and already announced his own modules. Anyone just using stock mts modules they would not have cared. Most of those guys are all gone now either to Blackstar or EVH.

 

[Mattfig]

Hmm, maybe the majority of people here are just buying modded modules so Randy's not getting enough of the action?

We all wait for new mods with excitement, still to this day, even though Randall has sucked hard these past few years with MTS and false promises...We're still here and talking about the Ian modules that we can hardly find...Randall would have got a lot more biz from me if they continued with product development....Kinda hard to avoid the modded market when there are no new modules from Randall...

 

[alowerdeep]

It is ashame,it isd such a cool concept and it works so well...just alot of guitarists dont buy into it or give it a chance for whatever reason...I have talked with several guys I know that flip amps like crazy and they will not even look at the mts line....couple of guys even heard clips and were impressed,just wont take the plunge....they think it is too good to be true....kind of bizare to me...if it were only one guy I would think he was just weird,but it has been at least a dozen with the same sentiment and I just do not get it.....My only regret is not following my urge to buy one years ago....in regard to Randall modules....I dont really care about stockers anymore as long as the base donrs are still available...The modded ones are alot better..as long as their are great modders out there who needs new Randall stuff?As good as they may be,people will still mod them...lol..

 

[m0jo]

It is ashame,it isd such a cool concept and it works so well...just alot of guitarists dont buy into it or give it a chance for whatever reason...

Two reasons I know of:

1: To my knowledge Randall has never really marketed the MTS line very aggressively. And besides that they arent to be found in many shops, which kills the idea for a lot of people (because you're not going to buy an amp you haven't tried, and also probably not modules).
If there was a steady supply of amps and modules around in shops the situation would be a lot different.

2: The name on the front ...
This screws them in two ways: the non-metal guys won't even look at the amps because the Randall name has that connotation for them ("oh those aren't my style"). So they don't even see what the system offers in "mainstream" modules.
And the metal guys might check it out, but then see a minority of "metal" modules (no Peavey, Engl, Rivera or anything), just the bog standard Marshall and Mesa they're already running and 2 of Randalls own (Ultra and UXL). This next to a lot of mainstreamers, clean modules, vox.

Also don't forget that it is a "complicated" system to a lot of people.
It's not when you get into it, but when you first hear of it you'll be like "what, build my own preamp?" or something, a lot of people just don't get it and think it's too complicated to even check out properly.

Ways to fix this:
1: Get the **** amps out there in the shops so people can play with them and actually discover them in real life.
2: Get some marketing going, video's, contests, a special website for the MTS system with flashy explanations of how simple it really is, proper soundclips!!

It's not hard, but it just needs a bit of attention, something that has been missing for a long time.

 

[Daryl]

Yeah..
I don't get the marketing strategy of US Musicorp at all.
It's sort of reminiscent of when CBS bought out Fender and it all went to ****. It is curious that they went MTS with Scott's sounds and not hardwired like the latest version of the Lynch Box. They probably could have kept his endorsement without MTS. He's been using Randall since before I grew hair on my...err...chest.
We are talking Anthrax here. Great 80's thrash band, but limited marketability IMO. They need more modern and relevant bands to hook up endorsement deals. They needed to respond to the pro modder scene and get competitive as well.
So what's next for Randall? More shitty Chinese made amps? More endorsements with bands that became popular when zebra print stretch pants were hot?
MTS is the best thing that they have ever offered. That's like Fender discontinuing the Strat. WTF?

 

[m0jo]

MTS is the best thing any company has ever offered.

There, fixed that for you

 

[Daryl]

MTS is the best thing any company has ever offered.

There, fixed that for you

Thanks for that one. :wink:
What can I say? I totally agree.

 

[Wookieslayer]

This thread makes me said and hopeful at the same time... I barely see Randall amps in shops, and usually they're in the used section.

Really looking forward to those Scott Ian module clips tho

 

[schlagdog]

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