Which modules do you consider as good "stock" modu

[eddiespaghetty]

Hi,

since there are lots of guys who have their Randall modules modified - are there any good "stock" modules which are useable right out of the box?
Which are they?
And which do you think, should be modified (your opinion)?

Thanks
eddie

 

[MorgMetal666]

I think the Kh3 and kh1 are. also the 1086. those are the only ones i own, but i've played lots of modded and stock ones. most artists signature ones are decent.

 

[tehuk]

I would say any of the lynch modules are good stock since they are to his specs. Sl+ is also decent because it comes with the JCM800 tonestack from the factory. Mods just take them to another level.

 

[Julia]

Define usable.

* they are all usable right out of the box.
* some are better than others.
* the best ones out of the box IMO are the signature modules, although I have to put my kudos in on the SL+, JTM, and Deluxe.

You're going to hear from "insane liquid gain" people that only a modded Ultra XL is going to do it. Insane refers to the level of gain, not the people.

Some people mod stuff to make them sound like other amps. Others mod to add clarity and punch. Others mod to add more gain.

I play moderately high gain. A plexi with a gritty treble booster is sufficient.

So it ends up like tubes. You've got your folks comparing current production stuff against each other, and you've got cork-sniffers.

My advice would be that if you're considering buying an amp, since they are very hard to find any in stores for try out, to grab one from Sweetwater with stock modules of your choice. DO NOT mod anything. DO NOT change anything. Try it out for 30 days. If you don't like them after 30 days return it.

Or if you've got a used RM series amp, grab a couple stock modules. Try them out. And if you like the tones you're getting you're good. If you like the tones but want something a little different, consider a mod. But remember there is a lot of little tweaks you can do without modding. Like if you've got a good equalizer you can do a lot with manipulating tone. Pickups have a lot to do with tone.

I like running a little notch in the tone around 850 Hz. I can do this via pickups on my Mustang, or by an equalizer on my humbuckers. This will totally change the character of the tone coming out the amp.

Also it's okay to use a transistor fuzz, treble boost, or tubescreamer in front off a tube amp to get the sound you want. you can use these in front of dirty amps. So if you've got these give them a try, too. There is no right or wrong way to get tone. It's all about "does it sound good"?

This said I'm probably going to go for a Mandarine Stonerverb later this year, just because.

The stock modules do a great job of covering the major amp manufacturers: Fender, Marshall, Vox, Mesa, and the Peavey 5150. The XTC is only one channel of that amp.

 

[grunge782]

Hi,

since there are lots of guys who have their Randall modules modified - are there any good "stock" modules which are useable right out of the box?
Which are they?
And which do you think, should be modified (your opinion)?

Thanks
eddie

Yah gotta tell us what your style of play is like first. +1 to Julia's speech

 

[Mailman1971]

Grail....
that thing rules stock! :wink:

 

[crankyrayhanky]

stock mods I wouldn't need to mod-
KH1
Grail

 

[eddiespaghetty]

You are right, I have to define "useable".

By "useable" I mean an tube-amp-like feel and sound, not weak, fizzy or muddy, which is able to cut through the mix, gain could be used all the way (maybe 70%), eq-section is working fine ...

I play mostly classic rock to hard rock, no metal. I know, the modules won't nail the sounds of the original amps 100%, but is the quality of sound and feel comparable?

Thanks
eddie

 

[Julia]

You are right, I have to define "useable".

By "useable" I mean an tube-amp-like feel and sound, not weak, fizzy or muddy, which is able to cut through the mix, gain could be used all the way (maybe 70%), eq-section is working fine ...

I play mostly classic rock to hard rock, no metal. I know, the modules won't nail the sounds of the original amps 100%, but is the quality of sound and feel comparable?

Thanks
eddie

They are all tube circuits.

All of the Lynch modules. The JTM, Deluxe, and SL+. That's all I've got. All stock and nothing modded.

I play mostly "Jurassic Rock", Grunge, and Stoner Metal (this stuff can be done with a Marshall Plexi)

If you're the kind of person who would be very happy if they were somehow able to put a JTM45, Plexi, JCM800, and a Mesa in the same amp, you'll be happy with this. I'd suggest getting a loaded Lynch Box from Musician's Friend. The black is only the faceplate -- the rest of the tolex is the green alligator. Both look bad assed, but I'd go for the green.

You do not need a hot plate or any other kind of attenuator with this amp, but note, the effects loop is designed for professional rack gear, not for stomp boxes so you'll need to put a -15 db pad in the loop to run your pedals unless you're using TC Nova or Eventide, or a full on rack unit.

 

[insightibanez]

I really liked the 1086.

 

[headown]

-Mr Scary
-KH3
-1086

great stock modules !

 

[tung]

XTC and 1086, no mod needed, although modding them will take it to another level. But I like both these mods stock, after much experiments with tubes, especially the preamp ones on the modules.

 

[eddiespaghetty]

XTC and 1086, no mod needed, although modding them will take it to another level. But I like both these mods stock, after much experiments with tubes, especially the preamp ones on the modules.

Hi Tung and thanks to you and all others!,

What would be "another level"?

And what preamp-tubes do you suggest then?

eddie

 

[Ampoholic]

1086
KH3

Treadplate is pretty dang good too.

 

[tung]

What would be "another level"?

And what preamp-tubes do you suggest then?

eddie

Modding the modules basically is like hot rodding it, more gain most of the time, but also more range of EQ to you likings, like more mids etc... I had the Dave Friedman Brahma for awhile, it sounds way better than the stock because 1- more gain 2- more hotter sounding.
I use Ruby in the XTC and EH in the 1086. What really matters is the combination of your power and preamp tubes, you basically have to find the right combination that'll give you the tone you're after.
This is an ongoing thing for me too. For example, I hated the 1086 for solos until I put in a pair of TAD 6L6 in my RM50, that was the magic combination.

 

[grunge782]

I play mostly classic rock to hard rock, NO METAL.

Well my advice is shot.

 

[eddiespaghetty]

I play mostly classic rock to hard rock, NO METAL.

Well my advice is shot.

O.K., I sometimes WILL play METAL!!!

:wink: