just replaced 2 celestion g12t100's in my 4x12 with 2 wgs veteren 30's. the difference is night and day the veteren 30's have the best sound i've ever heard in a speaker, just what the celestions were missing. everything is even sounding where as the celestions had big lows and smooth highs but no middle and the wgs's have everything so although my cab kicks *** with the combo of speakers i''ll be getting 2 more veterens. fyi the veteren 30' are heavier than the g12t100 or 75( same speaker but one is higher wattage ). i don't see how celestion v30's could be better than these even if priced the same. great sounding speaker hands down :twisted: