Reverb for rack rig?

[Phloyd]

I love the spring reverb on my RM50 but I'm thinking of switching to a rack rig when the Egnater E2 comes out. What do you guys recommend for reverb in the loop?

 

[NCdan]

I think that really depends on what sound you're going for: Dick Dale? only real spring reverb will do the trick. Batio? I think you'd be better off with a hall reverb simulator, since those tracks are just drowning in reverb. Anything else? Any decent reverb rack will do. I find that spring reverb can actually have a muddying effect at high gain as opposed to digital reverb; the thin, brittle sound of digital technology actually can be a good thing if you're playing at high gain. Well, that's my two cents, take it or leave it. Personally, I find I like digital reverb more than the real thing, but then again, I only really use it on drums and vox., I keep any reverb on my guitars to an absolute minimum if I use it at all.

 

[Phloyd]

I play with just a small amount of reverb on all the time. Just to give it a full sound. It doesn't have to be a spring reverb, it just needs to sound good. I'm gonna put it in the parallel loop and only a minimal amount. I'm just not looking to spend a bunch of money or get a multi-effects processor as my pedals fill my need for other FX. Thanks for the input.

 

[kc2eeb]

You can order the complete reverb system that is installed in the RM50. The only extra part you would need is a 9 volt AC, repeat, AC wall-wart adaptor and appropriate jack to power it. In the RM50, you not only have the reverb pan, but attached to it is a pc board which is a complete reverb drive and recovery amp, just like the stand alone units. I've bought two myself, one as a spare, and one to use with my RM4-RT2/50 set-up.

 

[Phloyd]

Where can I order the reverb system from? How much does it cost? Thanks.

 

[RD/Steve]

just run a processor in the parallel loop. you have every reverb available to you...and keep your tone intact.

lexicon, tc, yamaha, and rocktron have relatively inexpensive units on the used market.

(for just reverb...i highly recommend the lexicon units)

 

[kc2eeb]

I ordered mine from a dealer in NYC, who, unfortunately, isn't carrying Randall right now. However, if you want to go that route, i.e. buying the Randall parts, I would call the various dealers and pick the one that actually sounded interested in taking the order. And, of course, you can use one of the units RD/ Steve recommended. Hope this helps! Pat L.

 

[Phloyd]

Thanks for the input guys. I've got a few months to figure out what I want to do. Plenty of options.

 

[unconventional]

I have a TC G-sharp. Simple, effective. Does 2 sounds at once, delay, chorus, tremelo, phaser, and the other does reverb.

I've been through lots of pedals and stuff and this thing has ZERO tone suck with the parallel loop and the kill switch on the effects processor on. Kill switch is not the right word, killdry?

Anyhow I'm a freak with tone and if one electron gets sucked out of my tone, I hear it. This thing was like $250 new and I love it. I have 4 channels on my RM-4 and program it with midi to have delay on my XTC for solos, and reverb for the Ultra and Recto and slight delay with reverb for the deluxe clean module.

 

[riff man]

i use the Lexicon MPX 1 -- simply breath taking... i cannot tell if there is any kind of NEGATIVE tone suck or altering..so it's +1 in my book's

 

[RD/Steve]

the cool part about the rm100 or the rm4 is the midi switching of the footswitch to control both the amp/preamp and the processor.

 

[riff man]

the cool part about the rm100 or the rm4 is the midi switching of the footswitch to control both the amp/preamp and the processor.

+1000

 

[jlbaxe]

rack mount furman rv-1 spring reverb with a limiter. also the tubeworks has one with 12xa7's in it to warm the sound along with the peavey both of these are way way pricey(usally $300 and up) furmans run $79-$160,think i paid $120 for mine and use it mostly on my mesa mkIII,(until my egnater m4 comes in)sounds better than mesa stock reverb almost like a fender reverb.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

the cool part about the rm100 or the rm4 is the midi switching of the footswitch to control both the amp/preamp and the processor.

Do I need a sepearte pedal board for this, or can my simple 3 button footswitch be programmed to swiotch a patches on an external- I'm looking at the TC GSharp, it's $150 new, and the converters may be cool to have as well.

 

[jlbaxe]

if you have a foot switch for the rm4,plug the midi thru on the rm4 to the T C.when u switch channels on the rm4 the T C will change,the only thing you will have to figure out is when the rm4 changes what program comes up on the TC.i think it has 4 midi program numbers assigned on the(1 per ch) rm4.then you will have to change (midi mapping)the TC program number you want to match the rm4 channel. Edit the TC by now changing the program number to the one you want and save it,this should map them together.my rt2/50 uses ch 1 midi #87 ch2 midi#88 ch3 midi89.hope this helps,it is not as confusing as i have made it sound and if the RM50 and RM100 have midi in and thru it should be the same.

Also if you get the TC and it has a midi pedal you can use it going midi out on your TC into the RM4,RM50,RM100.push the pedal,bring up your tc effect you want and map it with the RM.best thing to do is use the 1-4 on the pedal for any of your main sounds (rhythm,lead) then use the other numbers on the pedal for you effects ex.ch 1 rhythm clean w/ tc reverb ,ch2 rhythm crunch w/ tc reverb,ch3 lead w/ tc reverb ch 4 lead w/tc reverb then pedal button #5 say for pink floyd sound have it bring up ch 3 on the RM and delay w/TC. Pedal button #6 ch1 clean w/chorus on the tc.there are many combinations, make it easy so you dont have to tap dance on pedals. i have my pedals rack mounted and 2 gcx switchers,i controll any number of pedal ,amp switching ,which preamp or amp and midi rack gear with the push of one button on my ground controll unit.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

Cool, thanks!