didn't mean to offend anyone but whatever. there are many high gain modules out there but are they really high gain. 1086 sounds good but you have to mod it? or boost it,lets see, recto has unusable gain not bad boosted though. that's just 2 examples of high gainers not cutting it stock for most everyone based on comments and evaluations.the 1086 is the probably the most popular modded module yet, the ultra and the xl are the only true high gainers available. a true high gain amp has more gain than you would need or use, like say 5150's or vht's rivera's, kranks or engls, deizel's etc. kh-3 is close but still not quite enough. i love the amp and some of the modules, but everything i have is modded. maybe i was too harsh but i've owned most of randall's ss amps and although overall they can't hang with an mts amp they still have killer grind which is why i always buy randall :twisted: i "wholeheartedly beleive" we need an "extreme" engl savage module :twisted: